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	<description>on photography blog by Los Angeles based fashion photographer Jerry Avenaim captures the beauty of fashion and advertising from all over the world. He is also regarded as one of the most sought after celebrity photographers. From high fashion couture to the lifestyle of Southern California.</description>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.avenaim.com/2010/01/04/photography-and-the-art-of-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im looking into photography as i want to start selling &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalcanvasprints.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photo canvas prints&lt;/a&gt; ,, does anyone have any tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im looking into photography as i want to start selling <a href="http://www.personalcanvasprints.co.uk" rel="nofollow">photo canvas prints</a> ,, does anyone have any tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie Minh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie Minh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing article Jerry. Your point is absolutely correct that today, digital photography is much more than just “film-less shooting.” This is like an eye opener for most of the photographers who are doing the same thing.

Kind Regards,
Natalie Minh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing article Jerry. Your point is absolutely correct that today, digital photography is much more than just “film-less shooting.” This is like an eye opener for most of the photographers who are doing the same thing.</p>
<p>Kind Regards,<br />
Natalie Minh</p>
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		<title>By: Acrylic Prints</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acrylic Prints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was VERY helpful to me.  I&#039;ve really tried to slow down but as someone who&#039;s learned on digital I find I shoot way more exposures then I should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was VERY helpful to me.  I&#8217;ve really tried to slow down but as someone who&#8217;s learned on digital I find I shoot way more exposures then I should.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Avenaim&#8217;s Evolution, Devolution, and Rebirth &#124; Profoto Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Avenaim&#8217;s Evolution, Devolution, and Rebirth &#124; Profoto Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there is color correction and so on. I did a series of blog articles. One was entitled, &#8220;Photography and the Art of Discipline,&#8221; because I began my photography all in large format. So one thing I don&#8217;t believe in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there is color correction and so on. I did a series of blog articles. One was entitled, &#8220;Photography and the Art of Discipline,&#8221; because I began my photography all in large format. So one thing I don&#8217;t believe in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 00:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Nikon digital equipment D3 lenses etc and use these for paying jobs. For myself, I have Rolleiflexes, Leica M3, Fuji 690 and 645 cameras, Nikon scanner, Phototherm film processor. Film is much more fun and satisfying. I&#039;m doing a lot of black and white and really enjoy it. D3 is great for assignment workflow. Photographers whose careers spanned the best years of working with film were very fortunate. New photographers today have no idea of what they&#039;ve missed -- THE CRAFT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Nikon digital equipment D3 lenses etc and use these for paying jobs. For myself, I have Rolleiflexes, Leica M3, Fuji 690 and 645 cameras, Nikon scanner, Phototherm film processor. Film is much more fun and satisfying. I&#8217;m doing a lot of black and white and really enjoy it. D3 is great for assignment workflow. Photographers whose careers spanned the best years of working with film were very fortunate. New photographers today have no idea of what they&#8217;ve missed &#8212; THE CRAFT.</p>
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		<title>By: Houston Wedding Photographers &#124; Photography and the Art of Discipline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houston Wedding Photographers &#124; Photography and the Art of Discipline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Entire article can be found here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BCL Photography &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Photography and the Art of Discipline</title>
		<link>http://blog.avenaim.com/2010/01/04/photography-and-the-art-of-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>BCL Photography &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Photography and the Art of Discipline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Entire article can be found here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Importance of Repeatable Photography - The Photo Forum - Photography Discussion Forum</title>
		<link>http://blog.avenaim.com/2010/01/04/photography-and-the-art-of-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>The Importance of Repeatable Photography - The Photo Forum - Photography Discussion Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Importance of Repeatable Photography      Many emails asked for a follow up article to Photography and the Art of Discipline.  Here is The Importance of Repeatable Photography. Written by fashion photographer Jeff Berlin.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Importance of Repeatable Photography      Many emails asked for a follow up article to Photography and the Art of Discipline.  Here is The Importance of Repeatable Photography. Written by fashion photographer Jeff Berlin.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked your comment &#039;spray and shoot&#039; for that&#039;s what I found I was doing. Shoot a ton and pick out the best, but what about the personality on the other in the center of the shots - in the speed of the shooting it is quite easy to forget them. This, I found, is what always happened to me when I got busy and interested. This was when I bought a Minolta 5D; I felt some kind of incompleteness affecting me and it was the inevitable that I should turn to something else. I remembered that as a boy I had played about with 116 film and on old bellows job and they came out right. Then one evening out at a Boys Brigade jamboree, I saw for sale an old cardboard box camera in an old straw board box. It had a shutter made from cardboard and one inserted the film, 3 x 5&quot;, put on the lid and to shoot you pulled out a bead from the side of the box that was attached to an elastic band. It worked with the the tiny lens held open for nearly a full minute.

It was the slowness, the patience I had to muster in order to do it when my blood was pushing, pushing me to hurry it up. I held and got the shot. I remembered this experience and went back to it determined to bring that simple but complex feeling back to me.
I am not a trained photographer, but I feel I see something different in your shots, some extra touch of empathy. Your 1st photograph with the girl placed against a pale blue ground and the softened but detailed hair and eyes touched me. I though she was placed a fraction too near the ground. Light blue appeared an unlikely choice though I had to look much more closely. It was good because I had to go back to it.

Then, your 2nd shot with the hands framing the face slightly soft focused was also very interesting, but all the same, different and planned. I couldn&#039;t quite follow the symbolism in your third shot of the two guys in big suits, tall hats and wearing rather comic expressions. Lots of contrast here, nearly every gray that one could imagine. Were these fellows a bit absent minded that day leaving their sub-machine guns at home and taking up a compass and throwing down the carpenters&#039; square as a challenge to the public. I felt here, that everything had been planned. I might not understand the picture, but I could see what qualities made it.

One other thing about No 1; your model suited that treatment. That light soft mottled blue suited her and certainly brought out her own pale prettiness. I hope you don&#039;t mind my cheek. I have just remembered that I haven&#039;t joined the forum yet as there was a problem in signing in and also I am such a novice still. 

These qualities that you outline your article around are exactly what made me buy a Sinar Norma having only read about what that camera was within the previous quarter of an hour. I join to learn and will need a lot of luck and good wishes. I loved the shots and the sentiment that fueled the article. 

Jared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked your comment &#8216;spray and shoot&#8217; for that&#8217;s what I found I was doing. Shoot a ton and pick out the best, but what about the personality on the other in the center of the shots &#8211; in the speed of the shooting it is quite easy to forget them. This, I found, is what always happened to me when I got busy and interested. This was when I bought a Minolta 5D; I felt some kind of incompleteness affecting me and it was the inevitable that I should turn to something else. I remembered that as a boy I had played about with 116 film and on old bellows job and they came out right. Then one evening out at a Boys Brigade jamboree, I saw for sale an old cardboard box camera in an old straw board box. It had a shutter made from cardboard and one inserted the film, 3 x 5&#8243;, put on the lid and to shoot you pulled out a bead from the side of the box that was attached to an elastic band. It worked with the the tiny lens held open for nearly a full minute.</p>
<p>It was the slowness, the patience I had to muster in order to do it when my blood was pushing, pushing me to hurry it up. I held and got the shot. I remembered this experience and went back to it determined to bring that simple but complex feeling back to me.<br />
I am not a trained photographer, but I feel I see something different in your shots, some extra touch of empathy. Your 1st photograph with the girl placed against a pale blue ground and the softened but detailed hair and eyes touched me. I though she was placed a fraction too near the ground. Light blue appeared an unlikely choice though I had to look much more closely. It was good because I had to go back to it.</p>
<p>Then, your 2nd shot with the hands framing the face slightly soft focused was also very interesting, but all the same, different and planned. I couldn&#8217;t quite follow the symbolism in your third shot of the two guys in big suits, tall hats and wearing rather comic expressions. Lots of contrast here, nearly every gray that one could imagine. Were these fellows a bit absent minded that day leaving their sub-machine guns at home and taking up a compass and throwing down the carpenters&#8217; square as a challenge to the public. I felt here, that everything had been planned. I might not understand the picture, but I could see what qualities made it.</p>
<p>One other thing about No 1; your model suited that treatment. That light soft mottled blue suited her and certainly brought out her own pale prettiness. I hope you don&#8217;t mind my cheek. I have just remembered that I haven&#8217;t joined the forum yet as there was a problem in signing in and also I am such a novice still. </p>
<p>These qualities that you outline your article around are exactly what made me buy a Sinar Norma having only read about what that camera was within the previous quarter of an hour. I join to learn and will need a lot of luck and good wishes. I loved the shots and the sentiment that fueled the article. </p>
<p>Jared.</p>
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		<title>By: The Importance of Repeatable Photography &#124; Jerry Avenaim Photography Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Importance of Repeatable Photography &#124; Jerry Avenaim Photography Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Avenaim’s comments last week in this space, their theme of discipline with regard to photography struck such a note with me that I felt compelled to reply. That reply [...]</description>
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